On Wednesday, The New York Times held its annual DealBook Summit. Tech industry professionals have spoken out about everything from the future of cryptocurrencies to the strict policies of some well-known corporations (Apple).

A conversation with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed that he doesn’t think Apple can continue to fence off iOS from other app stores that want to compete with it for iPhone business customers. Zuckerberg believes that isolating apps in the App Store to receive a 30 percent commission on sales is not “stable or good”:

“This is the only company that can control what programs get on the device. I don’t think it’s good. Apple obviously has its own interests. The fact that developers must provide their services exclusively from platforms controlled by a competitor is a conflict of interest.”

Zuckerberg pointed to the recent dispute this week between Apple and Elon Musk as an example of what can happen when one company has full control of a platform.